<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></title><description><![CDATA[Clear, shareable explanations of the essential facts and principles needed to understand the current Israeli-Palestinian situation.]]></description><link>https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ELmX!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33df7bae-06e2-41fa-80f2-4d8d913b3579_599x599.png</url><title>Israel Talking Points</title><link>https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 07 May 2026 11:21:30 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[israeltalkingpoint@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[israeltalkingpoint@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[israeltalkingpoint@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[israeltalkingpoint@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Is Israel a legitimate state?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Israel&#8212;the only Middle Eastern country that genuinely protects individual freedom&#8212;is profoundly legitimate, while the area's many dictatorships and would-be Palestinian state are totally illegitimate.]]></description><link>https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/is-israel-a-legitimate-state</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/is-israel-a-legitimate-state</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 00:23:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ea833892-9113-4dfb-b0c7-d8225da5e504_1274x1018.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Myth</strong>: Israel is an illegitimate government.</p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: Israel is the only legitimate government in the Middle East&#8212;because unlike its dictatorial neighbors, including the leading Palestinian groups, that are trying to destroy it, it genuinely protects individual freedom.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><ul><li><p>Israel&#8217;s many attackers&#8212;from the Arab States in 1948 to Hamas in October 2023&#8212;have attempted to undermine Israel&#8217;s right to self-defense by claiming Israel is fundamentally illegitimate while they themselves are fundamentally legitimate. This could not be further from the truth.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>What makes a government legitimate? Not how long it&#8217;s been around or what genetic lineage of people it governs, but whether it protects individual freedom.</p><p></p><p>Israel, which protects individual freedom for all residents, is profoundly legitimate, while its neighbors are utterly not.</p><p></p></li><li><p>Iran is a full-fledged <em>theocratic dictatorship</em>. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are <em>absolute monarchies</em>. In these places, you die if ever the dictator wishes it. Even in Jordan, lauded as a &#8220;freer&#8221; Arab State, it is a crime to &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Jordan#Freedom_of_the_press:~:text=The%20law%20provides,religion.%5B13%5D">insult the king</a>&#8221;. <em>These </em>are <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East#Countries_and_territory">illegitimate states</a>&#8212;not Israel.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In Palestinian Authority-run West Bank, <a href="https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/pa-bans-lgbt-activities-in-west-bank-598980">LGBT groups are banned</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_expropriation_in_the_West_Bank#:~:text=It%20is%20forbidden%20under%20Palestinian,being%20visible%20for%20long%20periods.">selling land to Jews is a capital offense</a>. In Gaza, Hamas permits marital rape and uses civilians as shields. These oppressive theocracies&#8212;like all Palestinian &#8220;governments&#8221; for the past 75 years&#8212;are illegitimate.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>While Arab-Muslim dictatorships repress freedom, Israel is a parliamentary democracy dedicated to <em>protecting</em> freedom. Israel&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Laws_of_Israel#List_of_the_Basic_Laws_of_Israel">Basic Laws</a> guarantee key individual rights such as freedom of speech, religion, and assembly. There is no equivalent in any other Middle Eastern country.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>While <a href="https://freebeacon.com/national-security/u-s-embassy-irans-supreme-leader-worth-200-billion/">corrupt Arab-Muslim dictators</a> keep their populations entrenched in poverty, the rights-respecting government of Israel empowers people to create their own success. Israel nurtures a <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/adrianbridgwater/2020/02/21/how-israel-became-a-technology-startup-nation/">thriving start-up culture</a>, where talented, hardworking <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living_in_Israel#Social_mobility">individuals can rise from poverty</a>.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In Israel, women enjoy full legal and political equality to men. Israelis even elected a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golda_Meir">female Prime Minister</a> in 1969. Hamas, by contrast, says a woman&#8217;s role is to <a href="https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/the-hamas-terrorist-organization/the-status-of-women-in-gaza/#:~:text=The%20role%20of%20women%20in%20a%20Hamas%2Ddominated%20society%20was%20laid%20out%20in%20its%201988%20charter%2C%20which%20states%20that%20Muslim%20women%20are%20important%20in%20that%20they%20%22manufacture%20men%20and%20play%20a%20great%20role%20in%20guiding%20and%20educating%20the%20%5Bnew%5D%20generation.%22">&#8220;manufacture men&#8221;</a>, and does not allow women to <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/15/women-male-guardian-hamas-gaza-strip">travel alone</a> or <a href="https://jij.org/news/women-rights-violations-west-bank-gaza/#:~:text=Regarding%20divorce%2C%20law,without%20her%20consent.">file for divorce</a>, much less hold leadership roles.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In Israel, being gay is not just accepted but openly celebrated&#8212;over 250,000 people attend Tel Aviv&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv_Pride#:~:text=The%20parade%20is%20the%20biggest,in%20both%202018%20and%202019.">LGBT Pride parade</a> each year. Next door in Gaza, Hamas routinely <a href="https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1660138495-exclusive-gay-man-who-fled-gaza-speaks-about-experience-with-hamas">imprisons, tortures</a>, and even <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/prominent-hamas-commander-was-executed-after-accusations-gay-sex-432343">executes</a> people for the &#8220;crime&#8221; of being gay, which is deemed &#8220;moral turpitude.&#8221;</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Israel protects the rights and freedoms of its <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#:~:text=According%20to%20Israel's%20Central%20Bureau,and%20as%20Israeli%20by%20citizenship.">2.1 million Arab citizens</a>, who, contrary to claims of &#8220;ethnic cleansing&#8221;, outnumber the <a href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine/Palestine-and-the-Palestinians-1948-67#:~:text=Nearly%201%2C400%2C000%20Arabs%20lived%20in%20Palestine%20when%20the%20war%20broke%20out.">1.4 million Arabs</a> who inhabited the region in 1948. In fact, Arabs in Israel are treated far better than Arabs in any Arab-Muslim country.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Israel&#8212;a free and prosperous country&#8212;has launched wars against zero countries. Yet <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel">eleven</a></em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel"> Arab-Muslim countries</a> have launched wars against Israel. These attacks, which attempt to destroy freedom-loving Israel, are thoroughly anti-freedom and should be unequivocally condemned.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Like the Arab States&#8217; end-Israel crusade, the &#8220;Palestinian cause&#8221;&#8212;contrary to its purported end of &#8220;liberation&#8221;&#8212;amounts to destroying freedom. For any Palestinian state, if created, would undoubtedly join the Arab States in repressing its citizens while attacking Israel.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>When the anti-Israel movement tries to persuade free people of Israel&#8217;s illegitimacy, it focuses on alleged Israeli failures to protect freedom. This is utterly disingenuous as their favored solution&#8212;a Palestinian state in Israel&#8217;s place&#8212;would undoubtedly violate those standards.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In recent years, Israel&#8217;s critics compare it to South African apartheid in the 1940s-90s, which deprived black citizens of freedoms offered to whites. These charges grossly misrepresent reality, and are a smokescreen for those who want to subject Jews to far worse than apartheid.</p><p></p></li><li><p><strong>Myth: Israel is an illegitimate &#8220;apartheid&#8221; state due to its anti-Arab racism.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: "Apartheid" allegations are a total fraud. Israel protects all its citizens&#8217; freedom better than nearly all governments in history and infinitely better than its neighbors who seek its demise.</p><p></p></li><li><p>By law all Israeli <a href="https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-of-human-rights-in-israel">citizens have equal rights</a>, including those self-identifying as &#8220;Arab&#8221;. Arabs in Israel are free to speak their minds, get educated, innovate, marry whom they choose, escape poverty&#8212;<em>to actually live</em>&#8212;none of which they can consistently do under Arab governments.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Arab-Israelis are free to run businesses, own property, and serve in the highest reaches of government. Currently, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset">10 of 120 members of Knesset</a>, Israel&#8217;s parliament, are Arab-Israeli. Meanwhile, there are <a href="https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-of-egypt">less than 10 Jews in all of Egypt</a>, down from 75,000 in 1948.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In Israel, both Arabs and Jews enjoy vast freedoms that many Westerners take for granted: freedom of speech, religion, assembly, sexuality, and more. In <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Middle_East">the rest of the Middle East</a>, including Palestinian regions, neither Arabs nor Jews reliably have <em>any</em> of these freedoms.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Israel&#8217;s opponents popularize concerns of &#8220;racist&#8221; Israeli policies that allegedly favor Jewish people over Arab-Muslims. This is clearly ill-motivated, considering the immense racism against Jews that goes on in the neighboring societies they champion at Israel&#8217;s expense.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In Saudi Arabia, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Saudi_Arabia#Antisemitism_in_public_administration:~:text=Members%20of%20religions%20other%20than,not%20exist%22%20in%20Saudi%20Arabia.">publicly practicing Judaism is illegal</a>, and government leaders frequently promote and cite <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Saudi_Arabia#:~:text=Saudi%20Arabian%20government%20officials%20and%20state%20religious%20leaders%20often%20promote%20the%20idea%20that%20Jews%20are%20conspiring%20to%20take%20over%20the%20entire%20world%3B%20as%20proof%20of%20their%20claims%2C%20they%20publish%20and%20frequently%20cite%20The%20Protocols%20of%20the%20Elders%20of%20Zion%20as%20factual.%5B1%5D%5B2%5D">fraudulent anti-Semitic texts</a> popularized by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion#:~:text=Hitler%20refers%20to,exterminate%20the%20Jews%22%3A">Hitler</a> in <em>Mein Kampf</em>. In Iran, Syria, and Gaza, government leaders publicly and officially <a href="https://www.memri.org/reports/international-holocaust-remembrance-day-iran-irans-islamic-regime-denies-holocaust">deny the Holocaust</a>.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Israel has been charged with mistreating West Bank residents, over whom it shares jurisdiction with the Palestinian Authority. However, these critiques totally trivialize the main driver of Israeli policy: that the PA-led West Bank violently clings to an end-Israel agenda.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>For decades, Israel has faced constant threats from the West Bank including <a href="https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/comprehensive-listing-of-terrorism-victims-in-israel">suicide attacks</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Intifada">organized warfare</a>. Israeli restrictions on residents of this region, e.g,. on travel, are absolutely necessary in order to protect its citizens from people who have tried to kill them.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Recent &#8220;apartheid&#8221; allegations claim Israel discriminates against Gaza residents. This is absurd, as Israel does not even occupy Gaza. Israel rightfully treats Gazans as subjects of a foreign regime that, especially after Hamas&#8217; election, poses an extremely high threat to Israel.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Israel is under constant attack from Palestinian populations. Still, Palestinian non-citizens of Israeli-occupied zones can pursue justice via Israel&#8217;s legal system, with some <a href="https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/supreme-court-judgment-regarding-the-separation-fence">landmark successes</a>. That these successes are possible is precisely what makes Israel legitimate.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Israel is the sole country in the region to enforce a just legal code, including to try and convict rogue Israelis who commit <a href="http://illegitimate">crimes against Palestinians</a>. By contrast, what passes for &#8220;justice&#8221; in Palestinian territories is the medieval practice of <a href="https://twitter.com/DSchwammenthal/status/1728322521148084649">public lynching</a> with no trial.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Anyone who talks about alleged Israeli bias against some minority group, while ignoring the full-blown racism and anti-freedom of its neighbors, is a fraud and should be dismissed. Critics absurdly call Israel an &#8220;apartheid&#8221; state, while demanding to replace it with a Nazi state.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Just as Israel&#8217;s opponents duplicitously fixate on Israel&#8217;s alleged shortcomings today, they do the same with the past&#8212;obsessing over or even fabricating missteps of Israel to cast it as illegitimate, while ignoring far worse atrocities of its neighbor-attackers and predecessors.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>An honest dive into Israel&#8217;s history&#8212;far from undermining Israel&#8217;s legitimacy&#8212;in fact proves that Israel has, for its entire 75-year existence, been by far the most legitimate force in a region dominated by unbridled racism and a hatred of freedom.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Myth: Israel unjustly replaced a country called Palestine, where Palestinians had lived in peace for millennia.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: Israel justly established a pro-freedom government upon the geographic area of &#8220;Palestine&#8221;, where Arabs and Jews had suffered war and oppression for millenia.</p><p></p></li><li><p>Contrary to the revisionist history of a &#8220;peaceful&#8221; region, &#8220;Palestine&#8221; had been plagued by war and conquest for millenia, violently changing hands between empires of the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, multiple Caliphates, Mongols, and Ottomans.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Today&#8217;s usage of &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; falsely implies a certain ethnic cohesion pre-Israel. In truth, the term originally denoted all <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)#British_Mandate_era">residents of &#8220;Palestine&#8221;</a>: Christians, Jews, and Arab-Muslims. Since Israel's birth, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#Identity">&#8220;Palestinian&#8221;</a> has conveniently denoted only the Arab-Muslim subset.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>The various people who lived in &#8220;Palestine&#8221; prior to Israel&#8217;s founding had not led very peaceful lives. Many were alive for the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinai_and_Palestine_campaign#">Ottoman Empire&#8217;s brutal 1915-1918 war in &#8220;Palestine&#8221;</a>, and all were alive for the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80%931948_civil_war_in_Mandatory_Palestine">1947 Palestinian Arab-initiated civil war against Palestinian Jews</a>.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>When the Ottoman Empire, an Islamic Caliphate, fell in 1918, many of its old provinces repeated history by once again establishing Islamic theocracies, e.g., modern Syria, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia. Israel, founded upon a portion of geographic &#8220;Palestine&#8221;, is a salient exception.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>After the Holocaust, the British&#8212;who had been quasi-governing &#8220;Palestine&#8221; since WW1&#8212;<a href="https://www.gov.il/en/departments/general/declaration-of-establishment-state-of-israel">established the state of Israel</a> in 1948. Israel was to serve primarily as a national homeland to protect the safety and freedom of the Jewish people, who faced mass murder for their ethnicity.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In breaking Middle Eastern norms to protect individual freedom, Israel&#8217;s founding was absolutely legitimate. A group of people who seek to turn an unfree country or region into a free one&#8212;protecting the freedom of new and existing residents, if peaceful&#8212;have every right to do so.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Critics argue Israel's founding violated the rights of pre-existing residents. In reality, Israel&#8217;s founding <em>protected</em> the rights of the region&#8217;s pre-existing residents&#8212;whether Jewish, Christian, or Arab Muslim&#8212;as long as they were peaceful and didn&#8217;t aid Israel&#8217;s destruction.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Thanks to Israel, Jewish refugees and Palestinian Arabs alike saw their individual rights protected for the first time by Israeli citizenship. This made Israel far more legitimate than the oppressive regimes it replaced and the oppressive neighbors who attacked it from Day 1.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Myth: Israel&#8217;s founding unjustly displaced ~700,000 innocent Palestinians from their home.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: The Arab States&#8217; illegitimate attack upon Israel&#8217;s founding, which Israel legitimately defended, caused ~700,000 Palestinians&#8212;most complicit in the attack&#8212;to desert their property.</p><p></p></li><li><p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War">Arab States&#8217; 1948 attack on Israel</a> was motivated by Jew-hatred and a power-hungry lust to expand their oppressive regimes. This was an utterly racist, unjust attack on an infant country that promised to free hundreds of thousands in the region regardless of race or ethnicity.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>The anti-Israel narrative says Israel's founding unjustly ousted Palestinian Arabs. In truth, Israel invited these people into their new nation&#8212;before <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1npnkg">many helped the Arab States attack Israel</a>, forfeiting their right to return to property they deserted in aid of Israel&#8217;s demise.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>The Palestinian Arabs of 1948 are often painted as innocent victims, but in fact, many aided the Arab States&#8217; end-Israel cause, whether by <a href="https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/arab-israeli-war#:~:text=Fighting%20began%20with%20attacks%20by%20irregular%20bands%20of%20Palestinian%20Arabs%20attached%20to%20local%20units%20of%20the%20Arab%20Liberation%20Army%20composed%20of%20volunteers%20from%20Palestine%20and%20neighboring%20Arab%20countries.">militarily joining the fight</a>, or by <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1npnkg">exiting at the command of Arab leaders</a> on the promise of more wealth and land once the Jews were killed.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Israel&#8217;s critics&#8212;who accuse Israel of deliberately expelling Palestinian Arabs, yet fail to condemn the Arab States&#8217; horrid attack&#8212;are disingenuous. Israel came in peace before the Arab attack, during which many Palestinian Arabs attempted to expel or exterminate Jews.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Some claim Israel sponsored massacres of Palestinian Arabs in the war. This is false; Israeli leaders <a href="https://www.jta.org/archive/beigin-disputes-contention-that-dir-yassin-was-similar-to-my-lai#:~:text=On%20April%2011,at%20Dir%20Yassin.">condemned</a> the few massacres for which there was <a href="https://www.meforum.org/63840/eliezer-tauber-on-deir-yassin-the-massacre-that?utm_source=Middle+East+Forum&amp;utm_campaign=26772126be-MEFW_tauber_2022_11_30_11_19&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_term=0_086cfd423c-26772126be-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&amp;goal=0_086cfd423c-26772126be-33615837&amp;mc_cid=26772126be&amp;mc_eid=54f4c0e4a6">any evidence</a>, while the far more numerous <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kfar_Etzion_massacre">massacres of Jews</a>&#8212;which Israel&#8217;s critics ignore&#8212;met no such indictment from Arab rulers.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>1948 Israel&#8212;a legitimate state on its heels from a vicious attack by destructive forces&#8212;was fully justified in defending itself. In fact, Israel&#8217;s defense&#8212;which consisted of protecting the freedoms and futures of innocent civilians by fighting off invaders&#8212;was profoundly moral.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Insofar as Israel barred the re-entry of Palestinian Arabs who aided the Arab States in 1948, they were fully justified in doing so. The Arab attack was grossly illegitimate and Israel had no responsibility towards those who abandoned their property to aid Israel&#8217;s destruction.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>For the small fraction of Palestinian Arabs who have real claims against Israel, e.g., Israel gratuitously evicted them, the proper path forward is reparations under the civilized Israeli justice system&#8212;not Israel&#8217;s dissolution and replacement by another Arab-Muslim dictatorship.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Israel&#8217;s establishment brought unprecedented liberty to the Middle East, whose residents had known only subjugation for millenia. By contrast, the Arab States&#8217; 1948 invasion was thoroughly evil and eclipses any one-off injustices that Israel committed while fighting for survival.</p><p></p></li><li><p>Not only is Israel absolutely legitimate&#8212;unlike the empires it replaced, and unlike its neighboring Arab and Palestinian Arab dictatorships that persist to this day&#8212;but Israel is <em>profoundly good</em> for all under its jurisdiction and for anybody in the world who cares about freedom.</p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Israel Talking Points! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What do regular Palestinians want?]]></title><description><![CDATA[The uncomfortable truth is that a large percentage of Palestinians, tragically, have been indoctrinated to the point that destroying Israel&#8212;not achieving peace or prosperity&#8212;is their primary goal.]]></description><link>https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/what-do-regular-palestinians-want</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/what-do-regular-palestinians-want</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2023 20:39:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OE30!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F454191ba-b5d9-41da-b785-f7acb1b7974e_1132x876.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Myth</strong>: The Oct 7 attacks in no way represent the noble and peaceful aspirations of the Palestinian people.</p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: A large percentage of Palestinians, tragically, have been indoctrinated to the point that destroying Israel&#8212;not achieving peace or prosperity&#8212;is their primary goal.</p><ul><li><p>Even though <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election">Hamas was democratically elected</a> in 2006, many Westerners think that Hamas could not possibly represent the desires of ordinary Palestinians. In truth, a <a href="https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public%20Opinion%20Poll%20-%20Gaza%20War%202023%20-%20Tables%20of%20Results.pdf">new Nov 14 poll</a> shows <em>63.6% of Gaza adults and 83.1% of West Bank adults support Hamas&#8217; Oct 7 attack on Israel</em>.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OE30!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F454191ba-b5d9-41da-b785-f7acb1b7974e_1132x876.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OE30!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F454191ba-b5d9-41da-b785-f7acb1b7974e_1132x876.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OE30!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F454191ba-b5d9-41da-b785-f7acb1b7974e_1132x876.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OE30!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F454191ba-b5d9-41da-b785-f7acb1b7974e_1132x876.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OE30!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F454191ba-b5d9-41da-b785-f7acb1b7974e_1132x876.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p>The Nov 14 data shows that most Palestinians (74.7% overall) support &#8220;a Palestinian state from the river to the sea&#8221;&#8212;which requires Israel&#8217;s destruction&#8212;over &#8220;two-state solution for two peoples&#8221; or a &#8220;one-state solution for two peoples&#8221;.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ocBj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3652dde8-325f-4343-86c1-609d02dfb80d_1142x962.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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A <a href="https://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2088%20English%20full%20text%20June%202023.pdf">June 2023 poll</a>, conducted by a different organization during a ceasefire, shows that if the 2006 election were to be repeated, <a href="https://pcpsr.org/en/node/944#:~:text=If%20new%20legislative%20elections,38%25%20three%20months%20ago).">Hamas would win again in Gaza</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQx9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24530461-d7fc-4caf-a820-9de3267928ed_1120x986.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div></li></ul><ul><li><p>Evidence that ordinary Palestinian civilians endorse the end-Israel agenda, and violence against Israelis more broadly, dates years back. A Dec 2014 poll found that 76.1% of Gaza adults either &#8220;certainly support&#8221; or &#8220;support&#8221; armed attacks against Israeli <em>civilians </em>in Israel.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png" width="652" height="459.51535836177476" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:826,&quot;width&quot;:1172,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:652,&quot;bytes&quot;:174967,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H4N_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3279cc4f-22ce-41d8-958e-1b90f562a2eb_1172x826.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p>Overall, <a href="https://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/israel-zionism/2015/11/what-do-palestinians-want/">post-2000 survey data</a> from both overseas and Palestinian sources paint an undeniable picture of anti-Israel sentiment. Most Palestinians believe:</p><p></p><p>Israelis have <a href="https://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/israel-zionism/2015/11/what-do-palestinians-want/#:~:text=Similarly%2C%20in%20a,rights%20to%20it.%E2%80%9D">no rights to Israel</a> (WINEP)</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-U5g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4baed77d-2b20-497e-b430-18005397b08f_1138x762.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-U5g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4baed77d-2b20-497e-b430-18005397b08f_1138x762.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-U5g!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4baed77d-2b20-497e-b430-18005397b08f_1138x762.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-U5g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4baed77d-2b20-497e-b430-18005397b08f_1138x762.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-U5g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4baed77d-2b20-497e-b430-18005397b08f_1138x762.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-U5g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4baed77d-2b20-497e-b430-18005397b08f_1138x762.png" width="652" height="436.5764499121265" 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"></figcaption></figure></div><p>             Judaism is <a href="https://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/israel-zionism/2015/11/what-do-palestinians-want/#:~:text=In%20the%20latter%20survey%2C%20Pew%20also%20asked%20whether%20some%20religions%20were%20more%20prone%20than%20others%20to%20violence.%20More%20than%20half%20of%20Palestinians%20averred%20that%20this%20is%20the%20case%2C%20and%20of%20these%2C%2088%20percent%20fingered%20Judaism%20as%20the%20most%20violent.%20(The%20other%20choices%20were%20Islam%2C%20Christianity%2C%20and%20Hinduism.)">inherently violent</a> (Pew)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_G8x!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26a4a515-3892-407a-894d-2335faa9faab_1216x932.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_G8x!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26a4a515-3892-407a-894d-2335faa9faab_1216x932.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_G8x!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26a4a515-3892-407a-894d-2335faa9faab_1216x932.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_G8x!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26a4a515-3892-407a-894d-2335faa9faab_1216x932.png 1272w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_G8x!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26a4a515-3892-407a-894d-2335faa9faab_1216x932.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_G8x!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26a4a515-3892-407a-894d-2335faa9faab_1216x932.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_G8x!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26a4a515-3892-407a-894d-2335faa9faab_1216x932.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p>Clear evidence that Gazans endorse Hamas&#8217; end-Israel agenda is the fact that Gazans elected Hamas in 2006. Though Hamas (or &#8220;Change and Reform&#8221;) ran on an <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Khaled-Hroub/publication/277486105_A_New_Hamas_through_Its_New_Documents/links/57beb72d08ae2f5eb32e1d3a/A-New-Hamas-through-Its-New-Documents.pdf">electoral platform</a> of anti-corruption, their commitment to annihilating Israel and its Jewish population was well-known.</p><p></p></li><li><p>What Palestinians admit anonymously in polls and voting booths, they express openly in public. To celebrate Oct 7, Palestinian civilians <a href="https://www.memri.org/tv/palestinians-gaza-west-bank-celebrate-october-seven-massacre-hand-out-sweets-fire-guns">cheered, shared candy, and fired guns</a>. As Hamas fighters paraded an Israeli woman&#8217;s bloody body through Gaza, <a href="https://nypost.com/2023/10/07/horrifying-videos-show-hamas-terrorist-invasion-of-israel/">screaming civilians spit on her</a>.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;9364ce2d-a41c-46f9-8def-798488445da5&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div></li><li><p>A Hamas member <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ie0S-XlbY">calling home</a> on Oct 7 said, &#8220;I&#8217;m calling you from a Jew&#8217;s phone. I just killed her and her husband with my own hands! I killed 10 with my own hands! Dad, open WhatsApp and see how many I killed!&#8221; His civilian father replied, with pride, &#8220;Oh my son, God bless you!&#8221;</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;eaa59f41-0e43-4230-8917-8ad7fef01897&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div></li><li><p>Much like the Germans who voted for the National Socialist (Nazi) Party in 1933, the Palestinians who voted for Hamas in 2006&#8212;and the Palestinians who continue to enable Hamas, whether actively or tacitly&#8212;bear responsibility for their government&#8217;s anti-Jewish atrocities.</p><p></p></li><li><p>How can it be that so many in Gaza endorse Hamas?</p><p></p><p>Building on the widespread Jew-hating Jihadist movement in the region, Hamas&#8217; &#8220;education&#8221; system indoctrinates Gazans that no goal is greater than destroying Israel and all things Jewish.</p><p></p></li><li><p>In Gaza, <a href="https://www.jpost.com/not-just-news/kids-cartoons-and-animals-top-5-most-bizarre-anti-semitic-videos-386796">cartoons for toddlers</a> feature fuzzy animals who praise martyrdom and Jew-killing. Upon graduation, kindergarteners perform <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjaK1FP6nCM">military-style drills</a> enacting Israel&#8217;s destruction. Elementary schoolers <a href="https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1713330683785990576">burn US flags</a> at summer camp, and play a game called <a href="https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1713330683785990576">&#8220;Stab the Jew&#8221;</a>.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;910d8e54-c5f2-4c32-b792-7439a709af00&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div></li></ul><ul><li><p>Gazan children have been <a href="https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1713331567228068114?s=20">recorded</a> saying things such as: &#8220;I hate the Jews and I am ready to drive [a car] over them&#8221;, &#8220;Stabbing and running over Jews brings dignity to the Palestinians&#8221;, &#8220;I am prepared to be a suicide bomber&#8221;, and &#8220;I will fight for ISIS, the Islamic State.&#8221;</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;6a7aeace-aed9-4d23-8570-9ac735b9ef63&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div></li><li><p>When Gaza boys are teens, they attend Hamas-organized, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9BBOapvp5c">Iranian-funded military training camps</a>, where it is cemented that martyrdom is the ultimate honor. By the time they are young adults, most Gazans are full-blown supporters of Hamas and believers in their end-Israel agenda.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;7836708d-1966-4bab-8a7a-2e3f5f65f487&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div></li></ul><ul><li><p>As one would expect, there are Palestinians who overcome the anti-Israel brainwashing and genuinely seek a better life. But there are not enough of them, and Hamas makes them pay. In 2019, when people held up <a href="https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/mena/hamas-violently-suppresses-gazans-as-they-begin-we-want-to-live-protests-1.838569">&#8220;We want to live&#8221;</a> signs in Gaza, Hamas broke their limbs with clubs.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>There are some&#8212;but not many&#8212;in Gaza who act against Hamas and survive. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvsrybklf8">Mosab Yousef</a>, the son of Hamas&#8217; founder, became a spy for Israel after witnessing Hamas members brutally torture hundreds of Palestinians for threads of suspected connection with Israel. Yousef is a true hero.</p><p></p></li></ul><ul><li><p>The fact that there are so few people left alive in Gaza who condemn Hamas is perhaps the most tragic aspect of this entire conflict. More than half of Gaza civilians are children, and are certainly not to blame for holding the Hamas ideology. Nevertheless, most of them hold it.</p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Israel Talking Points! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why did Hamas attack Israel on Oct 7?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Too many people are naively unaware that Hamas' core grievance is the very existence of Israel and its Jewish population.]]></description><link>https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/why-did-hamas-attack-israel-on-oct</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/why-did-hamas-attack-israel-on-oct</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:18:13 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bfc99b73-9b40-4d38-88ec-5b26cad531b4_440x293.webp" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Myth</strong>: The Oct 7 attacks, led by Hamas, are rooted in legitimate grievances that Israel must address.</p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: Hamas&#8217; core grievance is the very existence of Israel and its Jewish population, which drives them to commit atrocities.</p><ul><li><p>Though most people condemn Hamas&#8217;s methods, many perceive that their goal is the potentially reasonable desire to resist unjust Israeli policies. In fact, Hamas takes issue not with any particular doing of Israel, but with the fact that its Jewish population is still breathing.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In an investigation of Hamas&#8217; motivations, their founding documents are beyond a detective&#8217;s wildest dream. <a href="https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp#:~:text=Israel%20will%20exist%20and%20will%20continue%20to%20exist%20until%20Islam%20will%20obliterate%20it%2C%20just%20as%20it%20obliterated%20others%20before%20it">Hamas&#8217; 1988 Charter</a> does not shroud their end-Israel agenda, but declares it blatantly: &#8220;Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it.&#8221;</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><a href="https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp#:~:text=The%20Day%20of%20Judgement,trees%20of%20the%20Jews">Hamas&#8217; Charter</a> asserts that God commands Jew-killing: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. [They] will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.&#8221;</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Hamas&#8217; brand of anti-Semitism is not unique. Rather, they are part of the global jihadist movement <a href="https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/irans-islamist-proxies">backed by Iran</a>, which seeks to establish, via holy war, a theocratic Islamic Caliphate over the entire planet. This ideology also drives al-Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah, and ISIS.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>The jihadist nature of Hamas is exposed unambiguously by their leaders&#8217; statements. In 2022, <a href="https://www.memri.org/tv/senior-hamas-official-zahar-zionism-treacherous-christianity">senior Hamas official Mahmoud Al-Zahar said</a>, &#8220;We are not talking about liberating our land alone&#8230; The entire 510 million square kilometers of Planet Earth will come under [Islam].&#8221;</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In 2018, <a href="https://www.memri.org/tv/hamas-political-bureau-member-fathi-hammad-at-gaza-rallies-cleanse-palestine-of-filth-cancer-of-the-jews">Hamas official Fathi Hammad laid out Hamas&#8217; vision</a> in two stages: &#8220;The first is the cleansing of Palestine of the filth of the Jews, and their uprooting from it... The second is the establishment of the Caliphate, after the nation has been healed of its cancer&#8212;the Jews.&#8221;</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Even despite Hamas&#8217; stated goals of genocide and world domination, some Westerners are tempted to assume that Hamas must have some redeeming motivations. However, Hamas&#8217; actions&#8212;beginning far before Oct 7&#8212;prove definitively that we should take them at their word.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-history-timeline-idAFKBN2CV1Q3">Hamas started wars with Israel </a>in <a href="https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-of-operation-cast-lead">2008-2009</a>, <a href="https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/operation-pillar-of-defense">2012</a>, <a href="https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/operation-protective-edge">2014</a>, and <a href="https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/operation-guardian-of-the-wall">2021</a>. Even <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150626102921/https://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/08/05/operation-protective-edge-numbers/">during &#8216;peacetime&#8217;, they launched thousands of rockets at Israeli towns</a> and sent <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks">suicide bombers</a> to explode Israeli bus stops, restaurants, shops, and other public places, killing hundreds of Israelis.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>In a 2017 PR stunt, Hamas <a href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full#:~:text=Hamas%20does%20not%20wage%20a%20struggle%20against%20the%20Jews%20because%20they%20are%20Jewish%20but%20wages%20a%20struggle%20against%20the%20Zionists%20who%20occupy%20Palestine">revised their Charter</a> to disavow Israel in more academic lingo&#8212;&#8220;Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish [but] against the Zionists who occupy Palestine.&#8221; Obfuscations aside, their <a href="https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas-official-fathi-hamads-speech-was-no-exception-repeated-antisemitic-statements-hamas">proudly stated</a> goal remains to <em>end Israel</em>.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.hamas-massacre.net/">On Oct 7, 2023, Hamas put into practice their undeniable intentions for Israel.</a> They murdered &gt;1000 Israeli men, women, kids&#8212;even infants&#8212;in homes, streets, and nurseries. They beheaded, burned alive, raped, tortured, and machine-gunned their victims, taking &gt;200 hostages.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Since Oct 7, Hamas has doubled down. "We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do this again and again. [Oct 7] is just the first time; there will be a second, a third, a fourth&#8230; on Oct 7, Oct 10, Oct 1000000&#8212;everything we do is justified&#8221; &#8212; <a href="https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas-official-ghazi-hamad-we-will-repeat-october-7-attack-time-and-again-until-israel">Hamas official Ghazi Hamad, Oct 24</a>.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Hamas&#8217; &#8220;justification&#8221;&#8212;some still claim&#8212;is that they are freedom fighters. However, Hamas' conduct within Gaza refutes the belief that they are fighting for the freedom of the Palestinian people.</p><p></p><p>Consider: If Hamas were to succeed in its aims, would Palestinians be free?</p><p></p></li><li><p>Under Hamas&#8217; totalitarian theocracy, Palestinians have <a href="https://freedomhouse.org/country/gaza-strip/freedom-world/2023">very few freedoms</a>&#8212;not of speech, religion, assembly, or sexuality. If Hamas were to take Israel, Palestinians would still be profoundly unfree. Palestinian liberation is clearly not Hamas&#8217; goal&#8212;not in any core sense.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>People sometimes point out that Israel, in its past occupation of regions, may have done some things improperly by the standards of a free and civilized society. This is not the grievance of Hamas, who does not want a free and civilized society&#8212;or to live by its standards.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Hamas sometimes hides behind legitimate-sounding grievances against Israel, but these are smokescreens. Their fundamental grievance&#8212;and that of many in the Arab-Muslim world&#8212;is the existence of Israel. The only way for Israel to &#8220;solve&#8221; this would be to commit suicide.</p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Israel Talking Points! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Myths and Truths: How to understand the war in Israel]]></title><description><![CDATA[We believe there is a central set of myths &#8212; false beliefs about the facts and naive moral evaluations of the parties involved &#8212; that are driving deep moral confusion about the war in Israel.]]></description><link>https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/myths-and-truths-how-to-understand</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/myths-and-truths-how-to-understand</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Israel Talking Points]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:17:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33df7bae-06e2-41fa-80f2-4d8d913b3579_599x599.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each of the following pairings of myth and truth is further elaborated on in its own post. For those which are already published, you can find links to their full elaborations below.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>Myth:</strong> Israel must respond to the Oct 7 attacks with &#8220;de-escalation&#8221;&#8212;reduce violence, address grievances.</p><p><strong>Truth: </strong>Since Hamas&#8217; core &#8220;grievance&#8221;, shared by many Palestinians, is Israel&#8217;s very existence, Israel must use overwhelming force to defeat Hamas and its end-Israel cause.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Myth</strong>: The Oct 7 attacks, led by Hamas, are rooted in legitimate grievances that Israel must address.</p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: Hamas&#8217; core grievance is the very existence of Israel and its Jewish population, which drives them to commit atrocities. [<a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/israeltalkingpoint/p/why-did-hamas-attack-israel-on-oct?r=30jcgp&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web">See full post</a>]</p></li></ul><p></p><ul><li><p><strong>Myth</strong>: The Oct 7 attacks in no way represent the noble and peaceful aspirations of the Palestinian people.</p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: A large percentage of Palestinians, tragically, have been indoctrinated to the point that destroying Israel&#8212;not achieving peace or prosperity&#8212;is their primary goal.  [<a href="https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/what-do-regular-palestinians-want">See full post</a>]</p></li></ul><p></p><ul><li><p><strong>Myth</strong>: Israel is an illegitimate government.</p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: Israel is the only legitimate government in the region&#8212;because unlike its dictatorial and theocratic neighbors, it genuinely protects individual freedom for people of all backgrounds. [<a href="https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/p/is-israel-a-legitimate-state">See full post</a>]</p></li></ul><p></p><ul><li><p><strong>Myth</strong>: Hamas is open to a negotiated settlement for a peaceful resolution with Israel; no further violence is required.</p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: Hamas will accept nothing but Israel&#8217;s destruction. For long-term peace, Israel&#8217;s only option is to completely destroy Hamas and their end-Israel cause.  <em>[Coming soon]</em></p></li></ul><p></p><ul><li><p><strong>Myth</strong>: Israel must not inflict civilian casualties.</p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: For effective self-defense, Israel must utterly destroy its enemies&#8217; end-Israel cause. This requires civilian casualties&#8212;many more since Hamas uses civilians as human shields. Hamas is to blame for all innocent deaths. <em>[Coming soon]</em></p></li></ul><p></p><ul><li><p><strong>Myth</strong>: Israel deliberately causes civilian casualties.</p><p></p><p><strong>Truth</strong>: Israel takes extraordinary measures to avoid civilian casualties. Meanwhile, Israel&#8217;s attackers deliberately inflict civilian casualties, both of Israeli civilians and their own people. <em>[Coming soon]</em></p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.israeltalkingpoints.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Israel Talking Points! 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